I've had multiple raids where I sign up almost as soon as they are created. The raid leader will then let the raid sit and allow it to stack to 3x the amount of people that can actually come. They then pick who they like a few hours before raid starts. I've seen them pick others over me even if the other person has the same iLVL (or a difference of 2 ilvl points), experience, class, reputation, etc. Plus everyone uses the general comments to beg or negotiate for a spot.
It doesn't seem fair that we have to commit to be available for days, move our schedule around, and then get skipped because the raid leader doesn't really want to bother.
I recommend that raid creation allow for everything to be specified in advance, class, spec, iLvl, experience, rep. Then it should be first come first serve. Once someone takes that spot and commits, then only one other person is allowed to sign up as a reserve if they really want to. It wouldn't be up to the raid leader to decide. Then if there is an opening because the person didn't show, they should get bad rep for screwing the team and the raid leader can use something like a raid opening queue. Instead of it being a chat, it would just be a posting of the position needed so that the first person that responds would automatically be added.
The way that I was suggesting would actually allow the raid leader to choose what can come ahead of time. Some fights require certain makeups. Do you need 1 OP combat rogue, 1 normal holy priest, 1 SV hunter? Select that from a dropdown.
The first SV hunter that qualifies and signs up automatically get the slot. Any other qualified SV hunters are allowed to sign up as backups, if they choose. The raid leader gets exactly what he needs and the hunter knows what he will be doing on Saturday night.
Which still goes along with the idea. I'm not trying to present an idea to see if there is anything wrong with it. I'm trying to come up with something that is even better for raid leaders and for members wanting to join. I was hoping that together we could come up with a solution that is good.
The idea that I had doesn't necessarily mean that every possible option needs to be filled out by raid leader. Just that if a raid leader really felt that certain requirements needed to be filled then he could specify it. It doesn't have to apply to all 10 or 25 slots. Just that if there was a reasonable guarantee to the raid leader that he got what he was looking for then a raid joiner could have a reasonable guarantee that he would be rewarded by making a commitment.
For example, let's say that I was running an Ulduar 10 raid just so that I could get the 'Who Needs Bloodlust?' Achievement. The only thing that I really care about is that a shadow priest comes. Optionally, I want to make sure that half of the dps is ranged. Maybe I feel that I only need one tank and one healer. After I set those options, then people can join. When I ready to run my raid, I'm happy because I have my sp and others to help. Others are happy because they didn't have to blow their Friday night praying that I would pick them.
Does anyone know if this idea can be improved? Would love to know because if we have something that makes openraid better then more people will support it.
But,Gnosh wrote:Signing up and being skipped is lame.
Gnosh wrote:It's *possible* that your suggestion may become an optional way to create a raid, but it likely won't ever be mandatory.
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